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View Poll Results: Access Vs. VB as Front-end
Access = VBA (Visual basic for Applications) 3 50.00%
VB= Visual basic 2 33.33%
Other (please specify) 1 16.67%
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Old 03-05-08, 15:52
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ditto. I do not care what nonsense they make me do as long as I get paid in the end. Plus I like the pleasure of the I-told-you-so when something does not go well and I raised the flag of using the wrong tool for the job.
And it's documented that you tried to disuade them...
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Old 03-06-08, 02:43
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Lol

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And it's documented that you tried to disuade them...
Now, in anny case, it IS.
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Old 03-13-08, 04:06
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I will choose Access as front end.
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Old 06-29-08, 18:04
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Red face

I have Access 2003 as a front end and SQL Server 2005 as the engine and
quite frankly I'm embarrassed. I need to upgrade my skills a bit.
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Old 07-02-08, 02:53
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From a non-developer standpoint, access is cost efficient because:

- yes, it comes packaged with our commercial version of Office
- it can be used in-house by small businesses without needing to employ the professional services of a high-rate developer
- someone without any prior knowledge of databases and programming may start with this, and experience less difficulties as compared to starting with other software
- as mentioned, it makes for a good starting point for building a database which can be expanded upon. This may seem to apply to any software, but an important factor is the simple fact that yes, Access' basic nature makes it easier as compared to other software

Marvels, I believe that you are mistaking the concept of IQ with acquired or learned knowledge. The ability to develop and program from a back-end perspective does not come from your IQ, it is from your training and education in that field.

I am not a developer by trade or education, and you offend me deeply.

Do not mock the specialization of professionals in their respective field. You have said that: "Acces is build for people with an IQ less then 82. Just use the wizzard and hope for the best. Business guy : If we need an addition we will hire someone who can "program" (mostly a VB-developer)."

Do you not realize that should you come to a problem of legal matters, you would need to rely on one who fully trained to deal with such things? Do you not expect the doctors in your hospital to be capable in curing your ailments? Should a businessman who is trained in the field of commerce & marketing laws and has spent countless hours living and breathing the contexts of "proper business management" be unaware or unfamiliar with the technicalities of programming, it is nothing to scoff at. To laugh at the ignorance of others is the worst ignorance of all.

You claim that other people posses low IQs for not "appreciating" aspects of VB or what-have-you. Have you failed to realize that these aspects/features which you have brought up (to quote "And do you realy think that when i used vb6 i would use integated reportmanager. C.R. 8 works like a charm"), are things that only a select degree of the population would know? Would a doctor who specializes in communicable diseases or a political analyst be a low IQ person for being limited to just using Access for a database -or any software at all?

Yet you continuously post your grammatically handicapped replies despite the fact that someone has already pointed out that your spelling lacks refinement? It is not by the fact that you commit grammatical errors that I would call you a person of low IQ, but because of the fact that you refuse to fix an error that has plainly and openly pointed out to you.

Oh, and for the record, I am NOT your grammar teacher.

I am a grammar teacher to others.

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Old 07-02-08, 10:44
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- someone without any prior knowledge of databases and programming may start with this, and experience less difficulties as compared to starting with other software
FEWER difficulties. (Though “LESS difficulty” would be correct.)

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…it makes for a good starting point for building a database which can be expanded upon.
Ending a sentence with a preposition – a minor and debatable point.

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…Access' basic nature makes it easier as compared to other software
Easier as compared to? How about simply “easier than”, or “easy compared to”. Read Strunk And White for guidance.

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"Acces is build for people with an IQ less then 82. Just use the wizzard and hope for the best.
Access. Wizard.

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Do you not realize that should you come to a problem of legal matters, you would need to rely on one who fully trained to deal with such things?
I’m not even sure where to start with that sentence.

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Do you not expect the doctors in your hospital to be capable in curing your ailments?
Capable OF curing your ailments.

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Should a businessman who is trained in the field of commerce & marketing laws and has spent countless hours living and breathing the contexts of "proper business management" be unaware or unfamiliar with the technicalities of programming, it is nothing to scoff at.
Classic run-on sentence.

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To laugh at the ignorance of others is the worst ignorance of all.
Sorry, but I just can’t help it sometimes.

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Yet you continuously post your grammatically handicapped replies despite the fact that someone has already pointed out that your spelling lacks refinement?
Finally, you start proof-reading your sentences.

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It is not by the fact that you commit grammatical errors that I would call you a person of low IQ, but because of the fact that you refuse to fix an error that has plainly and openly pointed out to you.
I knew it was too good to last. An error that has plainly and openly pointed out?

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Oh, and for the record, I am NOT your grammar teacher.
Thank God for that.

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I am a grammar teacher to others.
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Old 07-02-08, 19:55
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Blindman,

Thank you for your gracious corrections, I will gladly take note and learn to improve on them.
Now. Since you have no stake in this thread, why are you here?

see PM

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Old 07-02-08, 21:08
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In general I like the way that coffeecat has behaved since arriving at DBForums, but I see this as a case of being "hoist by your own petard" not being assailed by blindman.

Blindman is many things, and bull-headed is one of the first that comes to my mind. However, he is rarely wrong on technical issues and he has a real knack for defending those who can't or won't defend themselves. He is also almost merciless when dealing with someone he feels is inappropriately abusive of anyone. Do not pick a fight with blindman, you are WAY out of your league.

I took offense at your post too. You made good points, but you made them in very impolite ways. Most people choose their words carefully when they're the "new kid on the block" because they may not have a complete understanding of the issues at hand.

You've got a good head. Use it wisely.

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Old 07-03-08, 00:45
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Actually, I just see a fly-ball post like that one swatted into center field, and I figure SOMEBODY is going pick it out of the air.
Might as well be me....
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Old 07-03-08, 22:58
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Aww, missed it. Nice try though. Good luck next time! =D
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Anyway, officially. I don't even know what the poll count is.
So far, people like Access' GUI because it is easy to use and VB has a lot of flexibility for advanced users.


Marvel,

Sorry about the way I worded my post, I think you're wrong about your opinion but that does not give me the right to bash you straight out. Sent you a PM.

-Coffee

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