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Thread: 3 servers?

  1. #1
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    Feb 2006

    Unanswered: 3 servers?

    does asp run on the web-server?

    in other words, i am trying to build a web-based database application. i will need 1. web server, 2. sql server, 3. asp application server?

    or does the asp application run from web server?

  2. #2
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    Feb 2006
    Seattle / Eastside
    The web server will run asp web applicatoins - you don't need a separate server for this.

    Could you clarify if you are planning to build an application (com written in vb, etc) accessed by asp (page.asp), or are you planning on using framework to access MS SQL?

    Depending on the level of involvment, you may will likely need your own server or a host that will allow custom apps / dlls

  3. #3
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    Feb 2006
    i am "planning" to use framework to access MS SQL.

  4. #4
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    Nov 2005
    Honolulu HI
    you only need items 1 and 2.

    personally though... i would suggest that you simply start off with setting up a hosting account someplace and then growing into having your own servers...

    from a person that has been down that road. i can tell you that the goal of your new business is
    1) to get up and running and make money.
    2) conserve your resources (time and money)
    3) market your services
    4) expand as needed

    if you start out with trying to have you own servers, you will spend a lot of time trying to manage the servers instead of working on your application. when you are focused on your application, your server maintenance may start falling behind in patches and security.

    while you are still growing, let someone else have those headaches. you focus on building the application and the business. especially since you are asking that question to begin with... that tells us that you may have a steep learning curve ahead of you to tackle everything at once.

    plus. just setting up a hosting account someplace is more cost effective right now. they take care of all backups and such and you can get a hosting account with everything you need (like with me) for $25-$36 a month. i have see other companies offering it even cheaper than that... like $9 a month (although i am not sure how they are doing it and havnig any decent services.)

    if you go full load with getting servers and rack space and such, you are immediatly into $200 a month minimum for a quality service. plus YOU are responsible for backups and everything else in between.

    once you start needing to expand and expand to the point where you need your own hardware... migration is relatively painless...
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  5. #5
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    Feb 2006
    thanks kropes...thats good advice

  6. #6
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    Jan 2006
    In this case, you don't "need" more than 1 server to get started. Asp can execute in the web server, or you can use a thin layer on the WS and call an app sever remotely. Application design is key here. You can run the asp and connect to a database directly.

    In most cases, you want to at least conceptually break the app into Presentation (ie, the WS), Logic (the "application server") and Data (the DB). This gives you some flexibilty in where you host the actual fuctionality, as well allowing some more options for scaling.

    Example. You can build an layer that makes soap calls for the data to build the presentation layer. The Soap endpoint can local or remote. The Endpoint can be anywhere, and abstract the puts and gets to other soap calls, or direct DB access. All 3 layers can be hosted locally, or disconnected. This isn't the only option, either.

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