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    Question Unanswered: MCDBA (SQL Server 2000) exams still available ?

    Can anybody answer :
    Are MCDBA (SQL Server 2000) exams still available today ?

    Is it worth going for this exam today, in spite of the fact SQL Server 2005 has been released ?

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    Of course the credentials are still good and will be available for awhile. You can find more information on the microsoft site.

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    even if they were, why bother? mainline support for 2K ends next April and I suspect the credentials go dead soon as well. it's like you can still get a job doing VB6 but it is not likely going to be a good or exciting job.
    “If one brings so much courage to this world the world has to kill them or break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.” Earnest Hemingway, A Farewell To Arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasymachus
    mainline support for 2K ends next April
    not that I care, but I was under the impression that MS support for each major release of SQL Server goes for 10 years. apparently that's not the case?

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    i am pretty sure that extended support begins next April, but mainline support ends and I believe extended support comes at a cost.
    “If one brings so much courage to this world the world has to kill them or break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.” Earnest Hemingway, A Farewell To Arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jezemine
    not that I care, but I was under the impression that MS support for each major release of SQL Server goes for 10 years. apparently that's not the case?
    depends on your definition of "support".

    Mainstream support will end April 2008. I believe that you are right that "extended support" will continue for another 5 years beyond that point. I believe that it means there will be no more patches, no more hotfixes (at least none that are for general release) after April 2008, but MS will take your money and answer your calls and maintain links to existing downloads on their site. There's an MS web site somewhere that details what the phases of support are and what they consist of and how long each lasts. I don't have that google magic tonight.

    ...sigh...it's been a long week and a long day.

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    Hotfixes are NOT for general relese, and I'm so bored with the Microsoft Courseware when it comes to terminology:

    Description of the standard terminology that is used to describe Microsoft software updates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasymachus
    even if they were, why bother? mainline support for 2K ends next April and I suspect the credentials go dead soon as well. it's like you can still get a job doing VB6 but it is not likely going to be a good or exciting job.
    Well, in my opinion the 2000 certs have something I miss from 2005, and visa versa. I'd actually like DBAs to have both.

    The 2005 certs (MCITP) are really great as they cover a lot of design issues, as well as a requirement for broad knowledge (MCTS) of the product. However, the MCITPs (and especially Database Administrator) does not test certain skills which should be mandatory, as general troubleshooting of server, network, directory service etc. This skills should be mandatory, and tested. In 2000 they were, at least to a point.

    I certainly hope that Microsoft takes the best from both the 2000 and the 2005 track when they start developing the certification track for Katmai
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    Quote Originally Posted by roac
    Well, in my opinion the 2000 certs have something I miss from 2005, and visa versa. I'd actually like DBAs to have both.
    good thing I'm not a DBA. I have neither!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roac
    Hotfixes are NOT for general relese, and I'm so bored with the Microsoft Courseware when it comes to terminology:

    Description of the standard terminology that is used to describe Microsoft software updates

    Then M$ is not very good at following it's own terminology:

    Cumulative hotfix package (build 2153) for SQL Server 2005 is available



    But what else is new...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roac
    Well, in my opinion the 2000 certs have something I miss from 2005, and visa versa. I'd actually like DBAs to have both.
    I have met DB professionals with both or one or the other I would not hire or let near my DB servers. Last year I had this 22 or 23 year old kid in support and I swear all he did was spend a month on Braindumps per exam and boom he was certified. No sweat. Repitition and regurgatation. Doesn't make him a good dba. I think he got a 900 or close to it on both exams.
    “If one brings so much courage to this world the world has to kill them or break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.” Earnest Hemingway, A Farewell To Arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasymachus
    I have met DB professionals with both or one or the other I would not hire or let near my DB servers. Last year I had this 22 or 23 year old kid in support and I swear all he did was spend a month on Braindumps per exam and boom he was certified. No sweat. Repitition and regurgatation. Doesn't make him a good dba. I think he got a 900 or close to it on both exams.
    Conversely, I have met individuals with no certifications whatsoever who could run rings around me (or just about anyone else).

    Formal education/certification is a means to an end (competence and skill) and not an end in and of itself.

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