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  1. #1
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    Unanswered: Legalization of our own application

    Hello to everybody.
    I wonder how can i legalize my own application (made in MsAccess) just to be able to use it in my bizz and still be legal.
    I think there is no problem in using our own application if we have a legal copy of Office or MsAccess.
    What do you think about it ?

    Thanks a lot

    Best regards from Claudio

    P.S.
    Dont tell me that i must pay for a "official programmer" signature on my application.....

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    You need a copy of MS Access (either the full blown version or the run time, though I know nothing about the run time).
    You need permission\ licence from the person\ organisation that holds the copyright for the application.

    If you built it, and you have a licence for MS Access than yes, you are fine.
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    it depends on the legal jurisdiction of the company and or the software authors, however its my understanding that EU law is similar of not common.

    if you, or people within your company developed it then its your companies

    if you had it written for you by someone outside the company its a bit murkier.
    if they were contractors working directly for your company, and especially if they were working on your premises for a significant amount of time it would be difficult for them to claim copyright.

    if the software was written expressly for your company, ie virtually all or substantial parts of the application were written specifically for your company then its probably owned by the company. if it is largely based on existing software written by the authors and modified slightly then it may be owned by the authors not the company, they will in that case have sold you a licence to use the software.

    if they did most of the work away from your company, not using equipment provided by the company, and solely to a specification or user requirement drawn up by your company then it may be owned by the authors not the company

    the contract that covered the work should have made that clear.
    in the case of employees working on projects within a company their contract of employment would normally reserve copyright on work undertaken by employees to the company

    it is however a grey area, compounded if there are outstanding amounts owing to authors.

    check the contracts
    check for any copyright notices in the software. although its not neccessary to explicitly claim copyright on any work, its always a good idea for authors to do so if there is a dispute.
    I'd rather be riding on the Tiger 800 or the Norton

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    I did not explain myself properly and i apologize.The issue is :
    1-I own a legal copy of Office including MsAccess.
    2-I build , myself,my applicatiion
    3-I use my application for my business/shop
    Is that legal ?
    I must have a signature from a professional programer?
    I must buy a pos piece of program ?
    Thanks again
    Claudio

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    Providing you have either a copy of Access or a "run time" version of access you can run any access application you have written or accquired where ever or however.

    the only time there are licencing issues is if you don't have sufficient copies of Access. the licence you sign with Microsoft is usually one per pc. you can get round that by having a copy of Access to develop the application and run production/live versions of the application using the run time.

    POS.. do you mean point of sale?
    if you need POS functionality you could do that by writing your own app.

    the one potetnail issue I can forsee is how you account for your sales in accountancy terms. the government is usually very keen to nake sure its tax rake off is properly accounted for and documented. there may be a statutory requirement in terms of a file format (SAFT rings a bell). your accountant shoudl be able to advise you.
    I'd rather be riding on the Tiger 800 or the Norton

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    When I looked into this, I found that to be 100% legal, you need a developer's licence, which which I got from MSDN... In other words, I subscribed to MSDN to get the legal rights to distribute applications built in Microsoft Access.
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    if you are developing software for your own business then I doubt a developer licence from MSDN is relevant
    I'd rather be riding on the Tiger 800 or the Norton

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    Saft

    Yes,you´re right about saft file.
    I wonder if i could make a saft file for exporting data purpose for the autority,but i´m a zero in programming in xml.
    Pity....
    It was the only thing i need.

    Quote Originally Posted by healdem
    Providing you have either a copy of Access or a "run time" version of access you can run any access application you have written or accquired where ever or however.

    the only time there are licencing issues is if you don't have sufficient copies of Access. the licence you sign with Microsoft is usually one per pc. you can get round that by having a copy of Access to develop the application and run production/live versions of the application using the run time.

    POS.. do you mean point of sale?
    if you need POS functionality you could do that by writing your own app.

    the one potetnail issue I can forsee is how you account for your sales in accountancy terms. the government is usually very keen to nake sure its tax rake off is properly accounted for and documented. there may be a statutory requirement in terms of a file format (SAFT rings a bell). your accountant shoudl be able to advise you.

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    xml isn't as hard as it sounds
    if you already have the data dictionary (and I'm guessing there must already be a data definition/dictionary for SAFT XML ) then the rest of it is relatively trivial (in overview) but a pain in details
    I'd rather be riding on the Tiger 800 or the Norton

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    It's the pain in details that's the problem with it.
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