good ideas! Thank you. I just rebuilt and repopulated the index, same negative results. I deleted the index and recreated it. I doubled checked the columns that were indexed compare to the results that are returned. Nothing hidden. I tried "product select" and it returned 0, so it's not really like an AND afterall. Just a flook I guess.
I'm sure there's a user end problem in here somewhere since the query works as expected with other phrases.